51 just can give some liquid fertilizers. Then you have an attack of something we call pests and diseases, you fight with some poison against the nature of fungi and bacteria, which have their spores everywhere in the atmosphere and the stratosphere. It's completely ridiculous if you look at that, because to get rid of them we should poison the whole atmosphere, and the whole stratosphere, because they are there, and they come from there. So, for me, agriculture in the way we are doing it comes from a very limited, and straight, and poor vision of our environment, its life, and our function on this planet, because I am convinced that humankind didn't become, two hundred thousand years ago and up to now, the dominant animal species. All species that appeared, they occur in a context completely contrary, quite the opposite of what we are doing. Let’s say they are life creating more life. We are doing the contrary, and we are not able to be in some way useful – let's say serviceable to life, which would be the first strategy to survive on this planet». It strikes me, when Götsch talks about us not being commanders-in-chief. And so I ask him whether removing the human being from the center of the scene – in other words, rejecting Anthropocentrism – is a fundamental part of Syntropic Agriculture (and, in my innermost self, I hope that this might be enough to save us from ourselves). «It is part of it,» he clarifies, emphasizing the complexity of the discourse. «It's not the central part, it is part. In fact, if you read the beginning cited 15 Principles, you will figure out that we are part of a macro-organism, and we are not commanders-in-chief. And for this, I intentionally cite a man who in the last five hundred years has been considered just a teller of fairy tales: Aesop. In one of his parables (mind you, they are not fables, all of them are parables) he let Chronos, who created the beings on this planet including the man, say: “Man, I brought you to this place, this is your paradise, multiply yourself and occupy the place. You can do whatever you want, be creative. There is only one exception, the laws according to which the macro-organism, part of which you are, are given. Not even to us, gods of Olympus, is it incumbent to make these laws by our own.” The man was happy, he was proud, but one day he came to the conclusion that if he could have created the laws by himself, he would have been more powerful than the gods of Olympus. This is what we learn at school today – that we are more powerful than the gods of Olympus, who are in fact characters. And so he began to do it, and by doing this, he ended up in conflict, in war, with those characters. Then Chronos, scratching his head, decided “I will kill him.” He stepped down from Olympus, but when it came to man, he decided differently. As a punishment for his disobedience and bad behavior, “I will split him in two halves.” He did it, and so, as a result, “You will be looking for that missing other half without being able to find it, and at the same time, you will have to cultivate your food, and this could be lethal for you, for your species.” There is nothing more, no bigger punishment than being lethal, because all species act in a way to fulfill their function, to move by inner pleasure, and then they do it; by doing it, they create and co-create their actual conditions, and prepare the place for the next generation to come. When your task is done you can retire yourself, because you did your job, it's not going into nothingness. As Socrates also said in one of Plato’s Dialogues, dying is not going into nothingness. He fulfilled his function, so he was neither worried, nor angry. He could go away with confidence, it's all done. Instead, nowadays, the modern man acts in the sense of After me, the flood. That is very sad, and will bring us to the black hole, to disappear». I therefore invite Götsch to have a turn with me and look carefully back into history, and point my finger at how the invention and evolution of what is considered in Western countries to be traditional agriculture has changed human society. I would like him to
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